Thursday, March 6, 2008

What about personal redemption?

So I have been thinking about the concerns about "Everything Must Change" being a very social gospel/save the planet and not enough about a personal salvation-commitment-experience with Jesus.
Just a couple of thoughts:
  1. Ben brought this up and I think it should be emphasized: We should not read "everything must change" without first being reading "the secret message of Jesus." It's truly the precursor to this book. We don't "HAVE" to read it, but it does make one approach EMC in a very different way.
  2. I wonder if even though we claim to be post modern aware and sensitive, we are still hopelessly inclined to view things in a very modernistic/industrial age/John Locke enlightenment way! I mean what if the individual salvation experience can only be truly experienced through a communal/global experience and not the other way around. Which is the way we have all been taught: The global and communal is second to the individual/personal experience.

IsH

Monday, March 3, 2008

We have a blog Yeah!!

I’m really pumped that we have a blog. Ishmael, thanks for setting it up. I hope we make the time to use it.

I too was challenged by Brian’s interpretation of Revelation and church eschatology. As Brian shared, how we view the end affects the way we live in the present. It makes so much sense in light of church history that 99% was fulfilled already. It makes sense that Revelation would be a source of encouragement for those living through Caesar Nero’s reign of terror around AD 70. Much better sense than trying to see China or Russia as the great Satan today.

I was challenged by the whole definition of atonement. The best line I heard at the conference was when Robbie(guy at the conference) asked if God saved us from the World or for the World. Which one you believe has huge implications for how you live. I believe we were saved for this world, but I still believe God had to satisfy his righteous wrath. I know that goes against Brian’s view, but I still see that theology being expressed by Paul in Romans. I’ve made a goal to further research this concept.

I hope we'll have plenty of dialogue.

mark

Sunday, March 2, 2008

Getting it started!

Well...We officially have a blog now for the members of the Lakeland cohort! (and for anyone else who wants to read it)
Mark, Aaron and myself were thinking about how cool it would be to have a place on the web where we all could "meet" and share our thoughts, bounce ideas, start discussions, and to just keep in touch through out the month...We think a blog provides a great place to do all of these things, it helps stay connected.
I am fairly new to the blogging things, especially setting one up, so bear with me. As time passes I am sure it will get more sophisticated. The inportant thing is for all of you to log in and post comments and dialog.
If any of you has any suggestions as to how we maximize this experience, please let know
God Bless

Ishmael